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Hi, I am currently a politics an international relations student. I just argued weeks ago on the very same reason with my economics teacher. I don't agree with some climate change initiatives such as deindustrialisation. For instance, I am referring to European context and European Parliament's initiatives. Although they aim to achieve 0 carbon emissions...their decisions might be the wrong ones if you think at the economic decline that has known since they started the quest for a green Europe.

Here’s my email forwarded to my teacher:

Should extractivism be considered rather than ended in environmental discussions? My perspective is that a country should strive for independence if it has the necessary resources, rather than relying on imports. Additionally, countries should invest in research to develop the most environmentally friendly methods of extractivism.

Furthermore, a country should prioritize its citizens’ welfare by producing goods responsibly, avoiding overproduction and focusing on meeting domestic needs to maintain a degree of independence. Surplus production could then be allocated for export, rather than prioritizing profit or capitalism over the country’s well-being.

Building on this idea, consumerism must be critically analyzed and addressed. Educating the population is essential to raising awareness about the consequences of overproduction, overconsumption, and resource waste, as well as their impact on the environment.

I’d love to hear your thoughts if time allows!

Here's his answer (although he is agreeing at a certain level but not entirely):

How are you? Thanks for your email. I broadly agree. Humans are themselves part of nature and have a social metabolism that depends on natural resources (from food, metals, minerals, water, etc) and this relationship cannot be eliminated. However, it can be altered and the current form of commodified nature subservient to economic growth is very destructive. Consumerism is definitely a massive part of this. However, the key question is who the key actors are and where the responsibility lies. Consumerism arose out of the post-War world, enabled by petrochemicals and oil-fuelled transportation, as a way to drive economic growth. It got linked to widespread indebtedness in the 1980s. This is not a question of personal responsibility or “bad” consumers but structural changes to capitalism that drive the increase in material throughput in the name of profit. Similarly, this happened on a global scale as capital and its profit drive went global in the twentieth century, supported by US imperialism. This means that it is very difficult for national governments to change this, much less governments of weaker states in subordinate positions in the global system. Therefore, I would encourage you to think about why this is happening, what the drivers are. This will move you away from a voluntarist position of individual responsibilities (of people and governments) towards a structural understanding, which as you probably know is what I think is needed to grasp what is going on.

This is his argument. Although I'm not entirely in a position to make my voice heard like he is (I am referring to accomplishments) I do have in mind ideas of policies and reforms for the future. I just had my 'awakening' at school, I have learnt things that never had before and interest in, but is still long way to go...

My hope is if many of us with common ideas will start voicing them and take action, the future might change...

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Francisco Perez's avatar

Roxana, Amen to you. You are very knowledgeable and have great ideas and initiatives we need, so start voicing them and putting them out. Have you read Danie Bell, who was a prominent sociologist who wrote the book THE CULTURAL CONTRADICTIONS OF CAPITALISM? My essay next week presents him. He does not offer solutions but gives the framework to see how capitalism and consumerism are intricate to each other. Take a look at Anthony Biglan's Rebooting Capitalism. He is a behavioral psychologist with great ideas. The paramount need is for behavior change. At such a massive level, it is pretty tricky. You also might want to look at some of the early work (50s, 60s, and early 70s). He was the first to propose to Save the World by focusing on our behavior. You do have a lot to offer, so go and do it! Thanks! Francisco.

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